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Back to Biloxi 2021

February 26th – 18th

Discussion about all things craps, except dice setting., page1. Welcome to the Dice Control for Casino Craps forum. If your post has anything to do with dice setting, gripping the dice, or tossing the dice then you've come to the right place. Have a question about influencing the dice? We have the answers.

2021 is just around the corner – and that means Heavy and DarthNater are heading “Back to Biloxi” for the February 26 – 28 Biloxi Beach Bash.

Craps players – you’ll absolutely LOVE Biloxi casino’s generous odds, automatic Buy bets on outside numbers, friendly dealers and easy comps. No matter how much weight you put on over the 2020 holidays – your flip flops will still fit. And if your toss isn’t quite where you want it to be or if you haven’t quite figured out how to maximize your winnings at the table – don’t fret. Heavy and DarthNater will show you the way.

This exciting weekend starts with FOUR BoneTracker Training Sessions. Two Basic BoneTracking Sessions for those of you just learning the software, and Two Advanced BoneTracking Sessions for those of you who have the software down pat but want some expert analysis of your toss results. The Basic BoneTracking class will take you through all of the information you need to know to be able to track and analyze your own rolls in BoneTracker, including the data entry page and the transition tabs. The Advanced BoneTracking Sessions will build on that and provide you with a personal analysis of 720 of your own rolls while taking a deep dive into your best dice sets for every number on the layout. Each of these sessions is limited to just TWO players each – four students for the morning sessions and four students for the afternoon sessions. The cost of these sessions breaks down as follows:

Basic BoneTracking Class: $299

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Advanced BoneTracking Class: $399

BOTH Basic and Advanced Classes Combined: $649

Students signing up for the Advanced BoneTracking Class must submit a book of 720 rolls in BoneTracker format a minimum of 2 weeks prior to the class (by February 12) to allow time for the coaches to complete their analysis of the rolls.

Again, only FOUR slots total are available for the Basic and Advanced sessions. Due to the limited number of slots available expect these slots to sell out quickly. Sign up early if you wish to lock one of these slots in. First paid – first served. Note that the BoneTracker slots are not available on the Axis Power Craps Golden Ticket option.

Sign on for the BoneTracker Sessions at the following links:

Basic BoneTracking Class: $299 – Click Below:

Advanced BoneTracking Class: $399 – Click Below:


BOTH Basic and Advanced BoneTracking Classes: $649 – Click Below:

It’s hard to beat a weekend with old friends and new, fresh-from-the-Gulf seafood, including some of the best craps games in the country. On Friday night, conditions permitting, we’ll hold our traditional Meet and Greet Get-Together. We’ll hook up at a local Beachfront Bar to knock back a few, renew old friendships and make new ones.

If Covid restrictions prevent us from getting together as a large group we’ll break up into a couple of smaller ones and hit some of our favorite haunts. Hungry? We know some local joints that serve great bar-food, and if you want oysters that were reefed up in the Gulf that morning there are plenty of options available.

Afterwards you’ll be on your own to hit the casinos alone or in teams to take on the tables. But don’t be out partying all night and don’t blow the bankroll before you’ve even stepped into the classroom because Saturday morning Nate and I will have serious craps training on our minds.

Saturday’s class will take place at the local dealer school down the beach in Gulfport. This class will offer the best of both worlds. All attendees will have the opportunity for hands-on coaching from both Heavy and Nate. We both teach the traditional on-axis toss and both have the same objective – getting you the best, most profitable toss ever. Heavy’s primary betting focus is on right-side play while Nate loves the Don’ts.

Among the material we’ll cover:

Table Positions – stick left isn’t the only spot in town!

Correct Dice Sets and how to get there quickly!

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Correct Grip for you based on the physical shape of your hand.

Correct Toss for you – depending on your physical stature and ability.

Focus, Breath Control, and Landing Zone

Visualization and the Mental Edge

Right Side Betting Progressions, Money Management and Discipline

Basic Don’t Play

Each attendee will receive a one-on-one toss analysis and a written toss improvement plan. But don’t just come out for the personal toss instruction. You’ll learn even more by watching Heavy and Nate coach the other attendees. Of course, if you DO get bored you can always hit the dealer school’s third table for an “open” practice session. That’s right – the school we use in the Biloxi market has three full sized craps tables so you’ll have plenty of time to work on your throw before heading to the casinos.

Saturday’s session is available stand-alone at the following pricing:

First-time student tuition for students who have never attended a Dice Control Seminar in the past is $995 for the full day Saturday PLUS all Live Casino Sessions on Sunday. New Students sign on via PayPal at the following link:

Axis Power Craps New Students – $995 – Click Below:

Golden Touch Craps Alums, Howard Rock ‘n Roller Alums, and Dice Coach Alums – in recognition of the fact that you learned an on-axis type toss with these organizations we offer a $100 discount off our New Student tuition. Your tuition for the Full Day Saturday and all Live Casinos on Sunday is $895. You can enroll at the following links:

Axis Power Craps Competitive Trained Alums $895 – Click Below:

Axis Power Craps Alums can sign on the full day Saturday for $695. If you have one of those $100 Black Chip discounts from a previous class, I will rebate $100 to your PayPal account in exchange for that chip – reducing your net cost to $595 for the full day. That includes all Live Casino Sessions on Sunday. Alumni Students enroll at the following links:

Axis Power Craps Alums $695 – Click Below:

Want to strengthen your game even more? On Sunday morning Heavy and DarthNater will be back at the dealer school with their Advanced Betting Strategy Seminar featuring Heavy’s favorite right side moves and DarthNater’s top Dark Side strategies. This is the same great content we’ve taught at our Darksider’s Ball classes and our highly acclaimed Right or Wrong Weekend Seminars. Remember, if you don’t learn to play the Don’ts you’re guaranteed to lose around 50% of the time at craps. Learn to play the Dark side and pick your entry points correctly and you will increase your win rate dramatically. Learn to increase your profit on your right-side play and your bankroll will grow even more. That’s exactly what this Advanced Betting Session is all about. The cost? Just $359. Sign on at the following link:

Sunday Advanced Betting Strategy Session: $359 – Click Below:

Remember, Axis Power Craps is the oldest continuously operated dice control school in the business. DarthNater and I have known each other for almost 20 years and between us we’ve trained thousands of students – some who have themselves gone on to become some of the best dice controllers around. Our joint seminars in recent years are in the books as some of the best ever. Between my Right-Side approach to the game and DarthNater’s Dark Side approach – you can’t go wrong.

Space IS limited and Biloxi is our most popular seminar location year in and year out. Make your plans and sign on today.

Heavys Power Axis Craps

As always, your tuition covers the cost of the seminar itself and all hand-out material. Attendees are on their own for transportation, meals, and accommodations. Remember, these events are intended to be instructional – educational weekends. While many players walk away from these events winners – there is no guarantee that you will win at any casino session. It’s still gambling and you could lose. Don’t gamble with money you cannot afford to lose.

See you on the beach in Biloxi!

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absorrel4
I played an individual craps machine at the 'Strat' the last time I was in Vegas. I just saw a Youtube video that they are now also downtown at 'The D'. Does anybody know if they are at any other Las Vegas Casino near the Strip? They are usually in a bank of 4 machines and each machine has its own small bubble on top of the machine with physical dice inside the bubble. These are not the typical circular bubble craps machines that are everywhere (Shoot To Win).....or the newer 'stadium' craps layout. They are truly an individual craps machine with its own set of dice.
LuckyPhow

I played an individual craps machine ...


This is most interesting. I hope some other WoV member can give details about the machine itself.
I was going to send a 'thank you.' Then, I saw that this is your first post. Thank you. And welcome to WoV.
7craps

I played an individual craps machine at the 'Strat' the last time I was in Vegas. I just saw a Youtube video that they are now also downtown at 'The D'.

The Don’t Pass For Dummies 4.0,
the video created by BigAZ Craps Guru
a big time hedge player and loser that claims he is a GURU and a... (lifetime winner)
ok

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mentions interblock in the video (not the folks that make shoot to win craps)
as to other installs or trials in Vegas
I know of no others as of today
that can easily change
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
DJTeddyBear
I haven’t seen it yet, but I’ll tell you where I’d play it if I saw it:
McCarran!
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TDVegas
The D and The Strat have them. The Park MGM had them (or possibly similar) but I believe it was removed. Station Casinos has removed all Shoot to Win craps from their local Vegas properties including the Palms. My 'birdie' is telling me they will be installing new Interblock machines...which may be the single seat craps version. Can't confirm. I'll know more by the end of the month as far as installations.
Aruze (shoot to win) craps is a 10 year old design that hasn't been updated....Interblock has been taking over. I suspect more of these single seat stations will find a home on the Strip and elsewhere. There have been rumors that comp point hustlers have been utilizing 2 terminals to rack up points on shoot to win and stadium style layouts...frustrating slot managers. I can't confirm that rumor. I've heard more excuses than I can count for their removal.
Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations. As noted, as of today I believe it's the Strat and D for now.
FleaStiff
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Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations.

Blackjack and craps with live dealers requires open space, lights and surveillance cameras galore. Any floor plan analyst will be happy to put a 1.41% machine in a nook or cranny rather than devoting prime floor space to it,
That way the need for variety is met by using sub-prime floor space somewhat distant from the primary ebb and flow corridors.
jetzzfan
It's not in Las Vegas, but a casino in Arizona (where live dice aren't allowed) just put in a few of these. They are also subject to Arizona's $35 maximum bet for electronic games.
Gialmere

Casino floor is all about maximizing profit. These games at 1.41% house edge are not nearly as profitable as traditional slots...but are installed for diversity. Craps players bring wives, spouses, girlfriends (or boyfriends) who may partake in other higher profit games. I'm hoping to see more of these single seat stations. As noted, as of today I believe it's the Strat and D for now.


I worry about craps, especially with the proliferation of the bubble machines. Offhand the game seems bulletproof; casinos might tweak it by adding new high HE side bets, but the core game (with it's payouts) remains the same regardless of whether you're playing at the Wynn or Whiskey Pete's.
In this age of watered down pay tables, 6:5 blackjack and triple 0 roulette, however, what's to stop them from changing the line odds to 9:5, 7:5, 7:6, and changing the place odds to 5:3, 4:3, 8:7? You could argue that since craps is a game that takes some time to learn, the players will easily spot the change leading to an angry revolt, and you might be right ... but that doesn't mean they won't try.
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TDVegas
Thanks for this post from:

I worry about craps, especially with the proliferation of the bubble machines. Offhand the game seems bulletproof; casinos might tweak it by adding new high HE side bets, but the core game (with it's payouts) remains the same regardless of whether you're playing at the Wynn or Whiskey Pete's.
In this age of watered down pay tables, 6:5 blackjack and triple 0 roulette, however, what's to stop them from changing the line odds to 9:5, 7:5, 7:6, and changing the place odds to 5:3, 4:3, 8:7? You could argue that since craps is a game that takes some time to learn, the players will easily spot the change leading to an angry revolt, and you might be right ... but that doesn't mean they won't try.


They have already watered down the ATS bet in many casinos. It's possible. In this environment...I wouldn't be surprised with anything the casinos do to increase their hold.

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Craps is a dinosaur in terms of operation costs. 2 dealers, stickman, boxman to man 1 table. If it wasn't for tradition and player outrage....the game would have been retired or they would come up with alternatives. Bubble craps.

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If it was any other business product in terms of cost to operate....it would be in a museum. It stil makes money, obviously....but it's a rotary phone in a world of technology advancement and how many employees it takes to operate. Think of the 1950's when 4 guys at a gas station would surround your vehicle to pump gas, clean the windshield, check the oil and put air in your tires.

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I really have no idea if craps popularity is waning or changing. Electronic craps won't help the cause of table craps. Aruze has installed 3 or 4 Roll to Win Craps tables. Traditional size table. 1 stickman. Bets are made on individual player touchscreen and the table surface is some type of proprietary LCD screen. Looks like an electronic pinball with bets 'zapping' to their numbers. Players roll regulation dice just like traditional craps....1 employee to run the game.
Last edited by: TDVegas on Feb 19, 2020
FleaStiff
Individual Bubble Craps machines at 'THE D': Two short videos were recently posted on youtube.
Not all that thrilling because the video shows a rather small, off-color screen but YMMD.